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Su-35 and F-15E
Tuesday, March 1, 2005 (1:55 AM)

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WenASe (68)
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Su-35 and F-15E
Who do you think will be winner if there is an air-combat between
Su-35 and F-15E Strike Eagle ?

Posted by
Karakondsul (49)
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Posted: March 1, 2005 (3:51 AM)
We know the result from the joint Indo-US air combat last year and we will see the result from another joint US-Indian air combat maneuvering this year. The US are very interested in such a simulation air combats with India after the results of the Su-30K (don't forget, Indian won the battles without using Su-30MKI, we can imagine what monster would it be in the air), the modernised MiG-21. So, surely not only Su-35 or 37 but the modernised russian air force Su-27SM will win such a battle against any F-15 version.

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Karakondsul (49)
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Posted: March 1, 2005 (5:17 AM)
No, there is no place for fear, as I said India is not giving more important information, that's why Su-30MKI doesn't take part in the joint flights, only Su-30K (with older avionics, without the "small wings and TVC) took part. India doesn't want to show it. and they have right, the electronic equipment is too secret for US eyes.

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Sukhoy (488)
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Posted: March 1, 2005 (1:45 PM)
Yes, India ordered MKI and russians made it how indians want.

In question Su-35 vs F-15E I have a little questions.
USAF told and put accent on BVR. Russians are the best in dogfight. BUT, russians don't have BVR?
The newest radar (from MiG 1.44) can detect target from 400 Km and engage it from 200Km.
USAF are more advance in BVR than russians or europeans?


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Karakondsul (49)
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Posted: March 2, 2005 (6:04 AM)
About BVR you wrong, the Zhuk-M, Bars, N010M, N011 and the other radars with phased array have even longer than 250 km. (300) detection of a flying object with 1 m. detectable surface, even more those radars can detect F-117 "Flying stone".

Posted by
Sukhoy (488)
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Posted: March 2, 2005 (2:35 PM)
I agree with you, but USAF are more advanced?

Posted by
freebie (27)
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Posted: March 5, 2005 (3:40 AM)
Definitely not. The Mig-31 is currently regarded the most advanced BVR fighter in service. With its new missiles it can theoretically down enemy aircraft at 400-600km and can carry up to 6 missiles that can down aircraft with a very high success rate at over 300m.
Meanwhile the Russians have advanced AMRAAM's that can hit targets at roughly 50% further distances then equivalent US missiles (180km) and have special guidance systems that make the missile incredibly hard to evade. On top of that the missiles also have thrust vectoring and can be fired backwards . BVR

So in essence while the USA's most advanced BVR aircraft, the F-14D Tomcat is being scrapped aircraft by aircraft by Donald Rummsfield the Russian air-fleet's BVR capacity grows by the day. One surpising statistic that is widely used to defend the Mig-29 is that during exercises in recently reunified Germany it was discovered the Fulcrum A outperformed all Western aircraft at BVR when it was believed that it would only have the advantage at close quarters.


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Sukhoy (488)
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Posted: March 5, 2005 (8:50 AM)
Yes, but what kind of radar have MiG-29G? Newer one?

Posted by
Sukhoy (488)
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Posted: March 5, 2005 (2:03 PM)
The real link is http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/airshow/riat2003_mig29_576x460_48hz_mpeg4.zip

Nice site, anyway, congratulation Neodiamond, if you know any other site put it on forum. Thanks


Posted by
Sukhoy (488)
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Posted: March 6, 2005 (9:25 AM)
I'm in student campus in Timisoara (Romania) and administrator cut off 21 port (ftp), (and many other) suddently, because here all students begins to download all kinds of stuff so. even our connection is on fiber optic, net speed is slow. Here are some 10.000 students and some 2000-3000 PC I think. So without ftp port speed increases to about 500Kb/s.

So, that site don't have any movie with russians planes.to bad.


Posted by
Sukhoy (488)
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Posted: May 2, 2006 (2:14 AM)
It is known Su-27 variants are better than F-15 variants, no doubt, USAF said that. Look at Cope India 2004 and many other exercices!
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