I know your laughing at this but its true. If you have taken enough classes on this subject you'll come to this conclusion: the Americans won militarilly and lost strategically due to loss of public and political support. The American military actually had no losses in terms of major battles, and could gain ground whenever they wanted to. However, the war was run not by generals in the field, but mostly by the White House. Defense Secretary McNamara, an old WWII Air Force Targeteer, used to pick the targets of the day personally for the strike aircraft. No war should be run this way. Until Operation Linebacker and Linebacker II, the US Military had its hands tied behind its back. Sadly, Linebacker, the unrestricted bombing of Hanoi, did its job in bringing NV to the Paris Peace Talks, and it was already too late to destroy the north.

Eagle is right in what he wrote. He's not supporting anything, he stating his opinion. But I challenge you find anything wrong with his statements.

And he is correct on his assessment. Maybe you should do some research on the topic yourself.

Foxroll,

I am from Vietnam, but am now a Canadian. I know alot about the war. My father was in the South Vietnam military during the war and had to goto to concentration camp for a year after the war. And in war you don't always have a winner or loser. Look at the 1953 Korean war, no one won that conflict.

The US NEVER lost ANY major fight in Vietnam. The US won all the battle but they lost the war. Even when they won militarily, they lost in the public press. Read about the TET offensive in 1967, it was a major military failure for the North Vietnamese but it was a massive public relationship win for them in the US Press.

The greatest weakness of the US military is not their military but the public/political opinion, it's true in the Vietnam war and it's still true today. If you want to defeat the US, do it using the public media, as you will not defeat the US on the battle field.

Both China and USSR supplied arms to North Vietnam but they didn't supply direct troop. It helps the North Vietnamese, but it was not the deciding factor, the North Vietnamese suffer massive loses. US public/political opinion and the media was one major factor, some in the US blames the US free media.

Also, the North Vietnamese, were highly motivated, believe in a cause - Unification of North/South, communism, fighting a foreign power, independent. They also had a noble leader in Ho Chi minh, unlikely the corrupt leaders of South Vietnam.

But today Vietnam is very different. The philosophy of the past of communism has tranform into capitalism, they want to make money and better life for the people. Many of the people now don't care about the past because most were not born until after the war (large portion of vietnamese men died during the war). The US and Vietnam has diplomatic ties, they don't view each other as enemy anymore. Recently the Prime Minister of Vietnam visited the US.

    Excuse for my bad English.

Quotation: "The US and Vietnam has diplomatic ties, they don't view each other as enemy anymore". Yes it is. But I watched TV, about Vietnamese's tourism. And commentator spoke that Vietnamese people behave ill-mannered with American tourists. But if that tourists from Russian or China or . they respect them.

What is this - remnant, vestige of WAR. I think it is.
I think they never forget and pardon (or - to reject an excuse) American government, not American people.

Lie. I personally know the woman, whose husband served in Vietanm during the war.

My Dad serve in the vietnam war. My family is vietnamese and I am was born there. Wow you know 1 woman.

"USA lost, because their Air Foece got hammered by us, russians. At least 1 to 1,5 aircraft kill ratio. Read Maxim Kalashnikov FMI. "

This shows me you nothing about the Vietnam War, go do some research before you make yourself look more dumb. US loss in Vietnam is public record. There is website which maintains records of air battle victories (this is just one site).

http://www.maxwell.af.mil/au/afhra/wwwroot/aerial_victory_credits/avc_index.html

For the US statistic data, you must have a video of the action or some independent party to verify the shoot down, since the record includes the date it was done, the person, the location. I would like some Russia statistic data for this as, I have NEVER seen any record anywhere or any type from USSR. So please provide some URL with statistic please, please.

Here is another with North Vietnamese Air Ace and Kill Ratio

http://www.danshistory.com/airwar.shtml

Don't see any Russian pilot.