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Friday, February 17, 2006 (1:24 PM)

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hellrazer (2)
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as far as the economy of russia is cosered it is on a rise no matter how many problems they have to face the economy and the military would rise from the ashes because the have the will power and resources to do so and the past is too much for the russian to forget.comments are welcome on my id or the forum

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Sukhoy (488)
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Posted: February 17, 2006 (3:58 PM)
Russia need resources, more resources. Money are one of them. And are very important. But Russia built nuke power plant for Iran, will build for Vietnam, sell ultimate tech to its allies, and so will earn money.

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Rebate (67)
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Posted: February 18, 2006 (8:01 AM)
Now Russia tries to not be a feed appendage of Europe and America. Practically petroleum money already doesn't magnify a rise in the budget,only inflation, therefore Russia aims to distribute the debts to the Parisian club by this money. Now Russia creates special economic zones for development of high technologies and already builds 4 technological parks.

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Foxhound (131)
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Posted: February 23, 2006 (4:33 PM)
Russia, has the natural resources.

The cause of its economical malayse, which to be fair it is climbing out of, can be traced to the political turmoil which was the mid-late 80's and the Yelsin regime.

Such events are more devastating than a recession or depression. In an economic sense.

If a Countrys currency and "Credit rating" (which is based on both internal and external perceptions on stability and trustworthiness) fall. The country cannot build up, or in some cases even properly maintain a military.

This is most evident on Naval resources. Ships are expensive to, and require consistant, maintain(ing.) Much of the Russian navy requires some intensive work due to lapses, and with some vessels it may not be pratical to do so.

But, there is a bright side.

The current leader (Putin) and his administration, appear to have both intellectual currency and common sence. Given enough time, there is a good chance they will build russia into a Military and Economic stakeholder.

Foxhound, out.


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SenorF (12)
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Posted: March 2, 2006 (7:58 PM)
Russia defaulted on their international debts in the late 1990's. Now they're one of the 4 most significant growing economies in the world. For any pro-US pundits. It doesn't matter how big your economy is in a world where war against major powers is not an option. It is more important how fast your economy grows in comparison to your opponents. At present Russia, India and China are all growing at an average of 2.5x the US growth rate. India and China have been growing at that rate for over a decade and don't look ready to slow down. This means that the 3 biggest military powers in the world (after the USA) have economies and military budgets that are expanding faster then the US military budget. They also have the massive advantage of sustained low costs of living. In China in the last 15 years the size of their economy has done better then double but their cost of living has increased only 10-15%.

If all 3 of these nations continue this trend not only will the Chinese economy by larger then the US economy in less then 40 years but their combined economies will be larger in around 10 years. Oh and the most startling part; China's defence acquisitions budget is already larger when measured in USD then the US equivalent. Russia's is not far behind but is largely funnelled into R&D for obvious reasons and India's is closing in as well.


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Foxhound (131)
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Posted: March 6, 2006 (2:55 AM)
Russia in the 90's was Yelsin's tenure.

And I wonder why they did not fall into Paris Group recievership, and with the potental mineral wealth of that nation it would make a fine trophy. With him and his selected people in control of the country, it would not have been impossible. Legal manipulation in conjunction with business aquisitions and Russia remains in name alone, just a figurehead.

The forementioned is a interesting might-have-been.

Gorbachev started the downward sprial, but, Boris greased the rails.
This is in reference to economics only.

As far as the "Booming" US economy?

If viewed in a broad sense, yes.

Why?

This administrations policies have greatly increased the top 10%'s(that is a very liberal number most have it at 2-5%) bottom line. through tax breaks and other incentives, even ones that encourage moving higher wage manufacturing jobs overseas, and replacing them with generally lower paying service industry jobs i.e. Wall/Mc jobs.

Then take some like Mike Barone from US News & Weekly Report, who take samples from a small segment, The ones whom don't want full time, high wages, or benefits(medical for example), the latter two are qualified by using the "benefits & high wages would affect social security and medicaid programs some may be receiving" argument.

Add a bit of "falling unemployment." Just forgetting to inform that the rate is calculated by the number of employed against the number receiving unemployment benefits. And the ones looking for a 1st job, did not qualify for or exausted unemployment benefits do not factor in.

For whatever reason, neglecting the over 60% whom have seen wages fall but the C.O.L.(Cost Of Living, based on necessities, adjusted for region)keeps on growing.

Neglect to inform that the Federal Reserve Bulletin, January 2002 listed the Gross Public (National) Debt at 5.662 trillion dollars and 21.2% of that was held by Foreign interests,
and both have increased.

There you have it. A Booming Economy!

Yes, I did not go into all the long worded, "traditional" econoese talk and theory. Why? Make it simple, yet informative as can be. So all can understand.

PS: Although many of the haves and have mores are prospering due to the "job export craze," most of their holdings have ended up in China, whom could in time say "F-U ours now."

Whom also by-the-way holds the largest peice of the Foreign Interest controlled portion of the National Debt cake.

One may say "what can they do about it?"
Please refer to the begining of my post, and remember although the average American would never even think about selling the country. There are those such as CEO's and "Job exporters" who would not give it a second thought. And lets not forget the "Bush Neo-cons" whom make Yelsin and his bozos look almost competent.

Foxhound: out.


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SenFreebie (13)
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Posted: March 6, 2006 (6:45 PM)
They make Yeltsin and his team look incompetent at destroying the economy, thats for sure. I heard recently that the USA's government deficit was over 400 billion USD. These days the largest buyer of Government bearer bonds is China, followed by Japan. This puts ownership or the US government in Chinese hands. Last time I checked, when someone sponsors an unprofitable enterprise they get something in return. The IMF get to dictate social and economic policy in that country, Sports sponsors get to put advertisements on those they sponsor. China knows its getting something, and if it wasn't you'd be seeing their flag and logos emblazoned on government officials and property. Can you imagine the effect on morale if Bush had made his victory speech for Iraq on a US carrier with a hammer and sickle painted on it, the Chinese flag and advertisements for Chinese companies?
As for Russia, its close ties with India and China, which the Western media love to ignore, are going to be its biggest economic help. At about the same time they defaulted on their loans, the Russians talked the Chinese into exchanging debt (Russia owing China) in trade for Su-27's, Su-30's and components for China's J-10 fighters. The deal, among others, were economically astute and built / mended a relationship which will help them for decades. Not only did China get the aircraft cheaper then normal, with major bonuses in their favour such as the necessary technology to license manufacture unlimited amounts in the future but Russia still owes China a favour after that, which is likely the cause of the good neighbourly conduct agreement signed between India, China and Russia recently.

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Foxhound (131)
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Posted: March 7, 2006 (9:29 AM)
Thanks for the Yeltsin spell check.

Yes, Russias recent bridge-building to China was a deft move.

It is mutually benefical in other ways.

China is a devloped and fast growing manufacturing economy, but, its natural resources are rumored insufficent to sustain or expand this trend.
So enters Russia, and with great fortune for both, a sizable portion of Russias substantial mineral endowment lies near (relatively) China.
Which with its growth is able to build a workable transportation superstructure.

Foxhound: Checking my 6


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SenFreebie (13)
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Posted: March 7, 2006 (11:11 PM)
Not to mention Russia brings a bunch of technological expertise that China might like.
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